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Old 09/07/06, 14:06
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any good?

cpu: pentium d 3.4x2 overclocked to 4.1x2
MB: asus P5ND2-sli
HDD: WD 250gb
Graphics: 7600gt
Psu: 500w atrix
memory: 2gb corsair
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Old 11/07/06, 07:08
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Re: any good?

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cpu: pentium d 3.4x2 overclocked to 4.1x2
MB: asus P5ND2-sli
HDD: WD 250gb
Graphics: 7600gt
Psu: 500w atrix
memory: 2gb corsair
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A decent amount of power, but not much gaming grunt. Maybe subsequent BIOS updates to the P5ND2 have made it a bit more stable since I tested it; but I'd still avoid NVIDIA memory controllers - they never got that right.
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Re: any good?

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cpu: pentium d 3.4x2 overclocked to 4.1x2
MB: asus P5ND2-sli
HDD: WD 250gb
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Looks good to me except i heard that pentiumD processors weren't that good.
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Looks good to me except i heard that pentiumD processors weren't that good.
I caution you very heavily against saying things like this without justification. If you can't supply a valid argument for a statement, then you shouldn't be making it.
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Old 21/08/06, 20:11
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Re: any good?

This is from micromart magazine

'unlike AMD X2 the combinitation of the dual cores on this die is a complete kludge, using the 800mhz system bus to communicate beetween them. As a result this doesn't offer all the performance advantages that AMD dual cores can offer'
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Re: any good?

It is a common misconception. Athlon 64 X2 cores cannot directly communicate. This mistake is often made because they are said to share be tied together, where as the Pentium D cores are not. In fact, Pentium D Presler core is two completely physically separate Cedar Mill cores,

Athlon 64 X2 processors have to be attached because they depend on an integrated memory controller for access to RAM while the Pentium D relies on the Northbridge. Athlon 64 X2s are still just a couple of Opterons tied together, and can only exchange data through the Northbridge across the HyperTransport. This has been proven multiple times by real processor architecture experts. Some might even think that a 2 GHz HT is faster than a 800 MHz FSB by a long shot, but this is not really true. The only consumer x86 CPU with processor intercommunication via L2 cache is the Core 2.

The reason the Athlon 64 X2 out performs the Pentium D, or more specifically while the Athlon 64 out performs the Pentium 4 in games and other linear benchmarks, is because of the basic design of the micro-architecture itself. Mostly, it's due to Athlon 64's relatively short 12 stage pipeline vs Pentium 4's 31 stage pipeline. (Prescott and later). The consequence of this is Athlon 64/X2 is a benchmark winner but Pentium 4/D has better content authoring, multitasking and general multimedia performance.

It is an unfortunate fact that most authors for PC magazines are writers first and expert second. It's rare to actually read a piece in one from someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
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