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Old 13/06/06, 14:12
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Stupid, Annoying Blue Screens

Hey guys, I've recently re-installed xp and its been runing fine, untill today when i switched it on and got a nice big blue screen error, i thought nothing of it and just turned off and on, then my comp took ages to startup, the little blue bar on the loading screen was going forever, anyway, i finally got on and came to restart later on after doing a virus scan then i got another blue screen set for this time i wrote it down, take a look:

STOP: 0X0000007E (0XC0000005, 0XFDA1298, 0XF8286364, 0XF8286060)

Sptd.sys - Address F7DA1298 base at F7D7E000 Date Stamp 4391a4dF


I Know, doesnt really tell you how to fix it. I'm going to search the net and try to find some info while I wait for some replys from you guys.

Heres My comp Specs:

Windows Xp Pro SP2
Pentium 4 CPU 1.60ghz x86 Family 15 model 1 stepping 2 GenuineIntel ~1594mhz
704mb of ram
Total Virtual Memory 2.00GB
Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller
Nvidia Geforce FX 5200 128mb
SMC EZ Card 10/100 PCI (SMC1211TX)

Thx alot, Any help much appreciated Thx Dave
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Old 14/06/06, 09:18
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Re: Stupid, Annoying Blue Screens

90% of the time that Blue Screen error code only comes up because you have a USB device which isn't interacting right with XP. Go ahead and pull anything out of that system that is a USB device. Also pull any game ports or anything not necessary for the computer. I understand you're mouse and keyboard may not work(if they are USB) but atleast you will be able to see if that is the cause. Now if you restarted with absolutely no USB or game ports hooked up and you still get the code. Restart one more time and see if it has updated its device connections. If it still doesnt work, go ahead and plug just the keyboard and mouse back up and restart.

From here it is troubleshooting. I can only do that with one step at a time so we will start with booting into safe mode. When you turn on your computer start pressing F8. It may or may not be this key, older systems it is <Delete> anyway when you are just about to boot it will say press "Button" to get to "Place" there are about three options, you are looking for Boot options or something of that sort. Not system setup. Try F8 first, chances are it is that. Keep hitting it then a window will come up that has a whole list of things to do. Click on safe mode with networking. If that works then you are going to have to tell me here. I don't want to go off on a tangent if that doesn't work.

If it doesn't work also let me know. There are ways you can update your drivers in pre OS.

If you want to try to finish this without me and you managed to boot into safemode with networking go ahead and go to the device manager and disable any new hardware that you have added in the last month. There is alot more to it than that but you could get luck. Tell me what happens and if you can get into safe mode and I will finish this with you.
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Re: Stupid, Annoying Blue Screens

Looks like Daemon Tools is causing that...Sptd.sys is the D-Tools driver.

Try uninstalling it. If the problem goes away, download the latest version and install that.


99% of the time it's a driver causing a blue screen - they are the only pieces of 3rd party software that can directly interact with the memory and IO manager. USB devices don't cause blue screens unless they are faulty and/or have a poorly written driver ie. Doesn't have sufficient consistency checks.

In general, Windows executive will throw up a blue screen for two reasons;
  • Hardware behaved in a way that caused an action that was completely unrecoverable, like it permanently lost memory.
  • A piece of software caused a fault that went as far as compromising the system's ability to ensure that it is running correctly.

For example, if a driver object modified a region of memory that belonged to another object, that original object and the driver object must immediately be discarded because we can't be sure what they'll do now that they've lost the plot. If the other object is something critical the the OS core (quite probable), then Windows itself cannot be assured, and so Windows must STOP.

If a USB device did something silly, the driver should be able to detect it and will trigger the necessary ejection events. All standard Windows USB drivers are smart enough to do this, but 3rd party drivers aren't always. This is why USB has a reputation for causing blue screens; it's not really the USB device's fault even if it is defective; it's either the driver or the controller malfunctioning and being mishandled. USB is arguably the most fault tolerant interconnect the PC has.

In old Windows, there used to be a lot of bail-outs that caused blue screens, but Windows 5.0 was designed to be very fault tolerant.
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Re: Stupid, Annoying Blue Screens

Thanks for the replys guys, i don't use daemon tools, i never have done, i did use alcohol 120% at one time which is like daemon tools, but removed it, also the only usb device i use is my mouse besides my mp3 which i very rarely plug in, i tried starting up today and all was fine, just the point of what happens the next time i boot, everytime i get the blue screens i just turn off and back on and windows loads fine, just annoying to have to do that every so often, if it happens the next time i'll look into it further, thanks again btw i'vr hired ur skilz for u
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Re: Stupid, Annoying Blue Screens

It looks like the virtual image driver with Alcohol wasn't removed properly then. When I get home, I'll give you a few pointers on removing it.

Can't really recall off the top of my head

if you Run cmd.exe, type devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1 then devmgmt.msc, then click I think View and Show hidden devices, you might be able to find Alcohol's SCSI miniport. Again, all off the top of my head, so don't bet on it.
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Re: Stupid, Annoying Blue Screens

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It looks like the virtual image driver with Alcohol wasn't removed properly then. When I get home, I'll give you a few pointers on removing it.

Can't really recall off the top of my head

if you Run cmd.exe, type devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1 then devmgmt.msc, then click I think View and Show hidden devices, you might be able to find Alcohol's SCSI miniport. Again, all off the top of my head, so don't bet on it.
ok then, thx, the devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1 command says "devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1 is not recognised as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file" also i tried the device manager and theres no hidden drives there, strange, i might just re-install xp, easiest way, saves ur time
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Re: Stupid, Annoying Blue Screens

oops, you needed a set in front of that. set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1
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oops, you needed a set in front of that. set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1
thx, tried it, nothing happens when i hit enter, is it ment to say something?
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Re: Stupid, Annoying Blue Screens

nope, it just sets an environment variable the the device manager uses to change the function of the "Show Hidden Devices" flag to basically show all hidden and disconnected devices. If you type set by itself, it'll show you all the environment variables, and it will be there.

You have to run devmgmt.msc from the same command window though, because that environment variable is not system wide (unless you make it so), and is destroyed when the command window is closed.
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Re: Stupid, Annoying Blue Screens

still not showing any image drives, no problem now, havent experienced any blue screens for the last 5 boots, thx 4 ur help, Skillz Hired
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Re: Stupid, Annoying Blue Screens

You needn't boost me; I can make it any number I like

everytime someone boost me I have to reset it anyway; 1337 is a special number
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You needn't boost me; I can make it any number I like

everytime someone boost me I have to reset it anyway; 1337 is a special number
i thought ur skillz were too high, cheat lol, cudnt higher mine cud u? im feeling low lol, anyway, i hired u, n thx again
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Re: Stupid, Annoying Blue Screens

lol, nice 1, cudn't make it -8888 cud u? lt looks better

BTW nice avatar, u put the animated text on urself??
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Minus B00B. ;D
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yes i noticed, maybe he could put me to 800135, looks like boobies
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BTW nice avatar, u put the animated text on urself??
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wow, how posh , i have paint shop pro 9, there is aan animation shop option, but i think i have to buy it , still have my 8008 lol, looks good , i look like i have given the worst advice ever and sum1 has constantly given me ngative skillz
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