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Old 05/03/08, 19:30
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Intel Core 2 Quad Core Q6600

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Could anyone explain me why I see on Eb*y some computers to sell which have this processor and on the listing is written that procesor speed is 4 x 3GHz, but actually it's 4 x 2,4GHz.
I will appreciate for answer.
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There are two possible answers:
  1. They're lying.
  2. They've overclocked it.
Neither of these are ideal:
  • if they're lying about the clockspeed, what else are they lying about?
  • if they're overclocked the CPU prior to sale, you've just bought a processor with no warranty.
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There's a computer with overlocked processor, I just found it on the listing, so it has no warranty. Many thanks for the answer!
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No warranty from Intel - the guy selling it may be prepared to offer you a shop warranty, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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I heard that if i comes from a shop already OC'ed, they have GOT to warranty it. No matter what

But that could be a load of crap
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I know this is an old thread, but I thought it was kinda amusing...

How exactly do you sell an "overclocked processor"? Unless the CPU itself has been physically modified so the BIOS will pick it up incorrectly, a CPU will run only within the parameters that were set at manufacturing date.

Of course, you can increase the reference clock of the motherboard outside specification, or the multiplier (provided the CPU will allow it), but both are BIOS controlled. A CPU on its own will not retain any parameters...if you remove it and plug it into another motherboard it will run at stock.


As for 3rd party warranties...depends on the country probably. I know that in most countries, the reseller is under no obligation whatsoever to provide warranty. The manufacturer themselves provide warranties however, within certain conditions.

Of course, if a reseller sold a part that was defective and outside manufacturer coverage without any warnings or disclaimers, you could pursue other legal remedies (Fit for purpose, As advertised, etc).
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I know this is an old thread, but I thought it was kinda amusing...

How exactly do you sell an "overclocked processor"? Unless the CPU itself has been physically modified so the BIOS will pick it up incorrectly, a CPU will run only within the parameters that were set at manufacturing date.

Of course, you can increase the reference clock of the motherboard outside specification, or the multiplier (provided the CPU will allow it), but both are BIOS controlled. A CPU on its own will not retain any parameters...if you remove it and plug it into another motherboard it will run at stock.


As for 3rd party warranties...depends on the country probably. I know that in most countries, the reseller is under no obligation whatsoever to provide warranty. The manufacturer themselves provide warranties however, within certain conditions.

Of course, if a reseller sold a part that was defective and outside manufacturer coverage without any warnings or disclaimers, you could pursue other legal remedies (Fit for purpose, As advertised, etc).
Read up on it and you will see what i mean.
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Read up on it and you will see what i mean.
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Read up on it and you will see what i mean.
I don't have to, it's the joy of forums.

Explain how you can actually sell an "overclocked CPU", and I don't mean a re-packaged or re-badged CPU because that's just illegal.
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Seriously, If you want a 2.2GHz to be a 4.2GHz. What do you do?

Think about it AGAIN lol
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a CPU in itself cannot be over-clocked on one computer, then work at that speed on another computer... Unless you overclock it again.

Which means if a retailer over-clocks a 2.2GHz CPU to 3GHz, when you buy it.... its still going to be 2.2GHz.

There is a 12-month manufacturer warranty that all manufacturers have to offer - the shops are under no obligation to offer a warranty of any kind - but some of the larger stores do just to keep up reputation.

I'd also bet (but I don't know for sure), that over clocking a CPU would void the manufacturers 12-month warranty.
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Still haven't been listening to what i am saying.....

I am still waiting for someone to answer my question....
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Seriously, If you want a 2.2GHz to be a 4.2GHz. What do you do?

Think about it AGAIN lol
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You overclock it... but what does this have to do with

"If they have overclocked it they have got to issue a warranty"

Have I missed something?
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Seriously, If you want a 2.2GHz to be a 4.2GHz. What do you do?

Think about it AGAIN lol
When you "overclock the CPU", you change the motherboard settings; either the multiplier (if possible), the reference clock/FSB or both. This changes the way the CPU initialises, but those settings are stored in the BIOS on the motherboard.

The CPU itself is completely unchanged. If you remove it and put it in another system, it will run at stock settings because the overclock that was applied before is in the old motherboard BIOS and not the new motherboard BIOS.

If the 2.2 GHz was say, 200 MHz reference clock with a multiplier of 11, you could achieve 4.2 GHz by going into the BIOS and changing the multiplier to 21 (if the CPU has an unlocked multiplier), or increasing the reference clock to 380 MHz. If you then remove the CPU and sell it, the buyer will go home and insert it into their motherboard and BIOS will initialise it at 200 MHz x 11: 2.2 GHz.
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can someone post a picture of the cpu-z of the q6600 not overlocked or anything? as i think mine is really weird.. lol

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