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Old 21/02/08, 21:34
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Spot the Difference

Okay. I've been looking through AMD processors and one little thing sticks out.


There's at least two editions of every AMD processor this site have got... the "normal" edition and the "black" edition.

Apart from £20-50 what's the difference? As far as I could see, there's no difference in terms of spec, so I presume it's something to do with OC?
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Old 21/02/08, 23:01
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Heh. I have no idea.

I'm guessing the black edition it supposed to be better somehow.

Although if the processor is actually black, it'll absorb more light than any other coloured processor, and with light comes heat, so the black processor will run hotter than the standard one....

If the specs look the same I don't understand what could be different. Might be some marketing tactics by AMD or something. Who knows.
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Old 21/02/08, 23:30
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Black editions have an unlocked multiplier. That means higher overclocks. I understand it also uses higher grade chips. Chips are speed-binned - when they are tested, the processors are sorted (binned) by how fast they will go at stock voltages, etc... - the higher quality the components, the faster they'll go.

Basically, the Black editions use better quality chips, which require less voltage to operate at the rated performance - e.g. 5200+, and so will overclock better with higher voltages. Combine that with an unlocked multiplier, and you have the core of a nice overclocker's system. I'd pay the extra cash for one, because I'm into overclocking. But that's just me.
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Old 22/02/08, 09:26
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So what will the 5200+ OC to if it's already at 2.6ghz?
I've never OC before though, so I'll want to be careful
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It's impossible to say - every chip and setup is different, so I couldn't predict quite what your CPU will reach. I guess 3.0GHz is a distinct possibility.
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the100thmonkey does really know what he is talking about here.

i see one for 3.5GHz before i think, somewhere i can't remember though. I think it was a limited one at OcUK

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no computwiz actually dont know what hes talking about. Forget about how many ghz you can get it to, you first need to think about your cooling solution, If u can overclock it to 3.5ghz which i'm sure u can then u will need a very good heatsink,fan and thermal paste. If these are of poor quality then your processor will overheat and be damaged, The hotter it gets the more damage is done.

And to be honest i wudent go with AMD at the min, they do have problems Intel will be better if your looking for speed even though they are a little more expencive but only a little.
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no computwiz actually dont know what hes talking about. Forget about how many ghz you can get it to, you first need to think about your cooling solution, If u can overclock it to 3.5ghz which i'm sure u can then u will need a very good heatsink,fan and thermal paste. If these are of poor quality then your processor will overheat and be damaged, The hotter it gets the more damage is done.

And to be honest i wudent go with AMD at the min, they do have problems Intel will be better if your looking for speed even though they are a little more expencive but only a little.
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Lol...

bfgboy is quite right about cooling, a good cooling solution is very important, particularly when overclocking, as increasing the core volts will increase the thermal output.

So dont go spitting the dummy Computwiz.
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If you look up reviews for the CPU you are buying which have an overclocking test in it, then that will give you a rough guide to what other have been able to get out of their CPU speed wise, though as was touched on earlier, you mite not be able to get that out of the CPU yourself. Although the spec and model of the cpu are exactly the same (within each edition of course), the manufacturing process does not allow for each CPU to be a totally exact copy of each other, if that makes sense? (i think this may be what the100thmonkey was trying to say?)

Then obviously you'd have to take into consideration things like motherboard etc.
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Lol...

bfgboy is quite right about cooling, a good cooling solution is very important, particularly when overclocking, as increasing the core volts will increase the thermal output.

So dont go spitting the dummy Computwiz.
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